• doeknius_gloek@discuss.tchncs.de
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    8 months ago

    I usually check my emails while on my autopilot commute to work

    Also, with a 90-minute commute each way, in 2023, he apparently started sleeping in his car, showering at the factory and microwaving his dinners on days that he was working.

    This guy sounds like a fucking idiot.

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      8 months ago

      Sounds like a quiet quitter to me, if only he went above and beyond the expectation I’m sure he’d still be there /s

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          8 months ago

          Yeah why would the managers feel easy if their workers are apparently continuing to work hard up until they quit?

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          Yeah. Because someone who merely “meets expectations”, you don’t know what they’re thinking. They could be plotting something and you wouldn’t know. Many employers pride themselves on thinking they know what their employees are thinking while on the clock. Meanwhile, the “quiet quitters” are the hardest to read.

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        8 months ago

        Quiet Quitter seems like such an American concept. I feel like America’s work ethic resembles Asian work ethic a lot? Nobody would complain here about someone who is fulfilling their duties without being more enthusiastic about it than necessary, or about not giving it more than they absolutely need to. It’s a job, after all.

        Obviously, in some professions you want the worker to be somewhat involved, like a caretaker or doctor or surgeon or teacher. But if they just do what is asked of them, they shouldn’t be called “quitters”… Just my two cents, I guess.

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          8 months ago

          I feel like culture is beginning to change, but there’s so much inner class warfare and competitiveness in some positions that some are blinded to the bigger picture it seems.

          Every measly raise I’ve ever gotten, comes with a warning that the company doesn’t want us discussing wages. I feel like a lot don’t see that as the red flag that that is, and are only concerned about themselves in that matter. I’ve always ran to blab to my coworkers make sure we’re all in it together for equal pay

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            8 months ago

            It’s illegal to ask you not to discuss wages in the United States. Violation of federal labor law.

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      8 months ago

      That’s my first reaction too but it could very well be that the dude can’t afford to lose his job if he’s late. I get it, I have long commutes too.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        I think it was more about checking his email while his car was in Autopilot mode as if that were a safe thing to do.

        (For anyone unclear on that, it is absolutely not a safe thing to do.)

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          8 months ago

          Ah fair enough. Yes that’s crazy, I heard of a dude who would take 20 minute naps on his commute home he didn’t even have ‘autopilot’ it was just fucking lane assist and adaptive cruise control. That’s a death waiting to happen.

    • redcalcium@lemmy.institute
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      8 months ago

      When self-driving cars finally become a reality (working reliably on any condition without constant supervision), I suspect many people would skip buying house and buy these cars instead because it’ll be so much cheaper. After work, you hop into your car and take a nap, then wake up in a diner’s parking lot. Go back to the car again after eating to sleep, and wake up in the morning already in your office’s parking lot. Basically homeless but never need to worry about cop because the car constantly moves while you’re sleeping, making circuit around the city until it finally take you back to your office’s parking lot.

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    8 months ago

    Unions are the only way to protect workers. The wealth extraction class only cares about numbers. Collective action can threaten their bottom line and force them to the negotiating table.

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    8 months ago

    What? The guy who fired people who slept in their offices at Twitter fired more people who were sacrificing their personal lives for one of his companies?

    Ya don’t say.

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      8 months ago

      I hear masochistic genocidal overlord is much nicer once you get to know him. You just have to look past all the masochism and genocide, to see the fluffy teddy bear inside.

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    8 months ago

    Tesla is a massively overvalued stock and has been for a long time. When they announced their recent dire sales, the share price actually rebounded because the clown Mush spouted his usual nonsense about the real value in the company - self drive and robo-taxis - but it’s been widely reported for some time that the companies tech is a dud because Musk decided to remove all the expensive components that actually make the technology work. They lost their first-move advantage; their competitors have caught up and surpassed them both on EVs and self-drive tech.

    The guy is a joke, the company is a joke.

    • Shadywack@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      That new Chevy RST looking pretty badass, it isn’t just marginally better than a Cybertruck, it’s objectively superior in nearly every aspect that it can be superior.

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          8 months ago

          No joke, a cybertruck passed me on the road during my drive home today, and it’s even stupider looking in person than in pictures and videos. I laughed out loud at the genius who paid actual money for it.

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          8 months ago

          It’s massive like all full size trucks now, otherwise just a matter of opinion on the style. I think the ford lightning looks a lot better but they’re both useful as backup power cells for a house and have pretty good range.

  • Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Why bother living.

    I guess maybe if the extreme overwork overtime is a means to an end by getting money, retire early, get experience to find a more reasonable job… I guess maybe some can justify it. Maybe. There’s probably some who feel forced due to desperate circumstances.

    Idk. I hate this overworked overtime culture.

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      8 months ago

      Yeah I just was forced to quit after putting in 10 hours a day for 5+ years at a company. It caused health problems and is definitely not worth it. Put the extra time into YOUR OWN projects instead of someone else’s.

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        8 months ago

        Agreed. And remember that a good personal project does not necessarily have to be for profit.

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      8 months ago

      I’m proud to be a ‘loser’ by our standards. I think it was theory of a deadman’s lowlife that really made me think about how much better it is to simply not fucking care about all the bullshit.

  • RidcullyTheBrown@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Why are we still surprised by stories like these? Post pandemic tech layoffs are not performance based. The tech industry has decided that less employees is better than more employees and they’re laying off entire departments.

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        8 months ago

        It’s business model is indistinguishable from other Silicon Valley based tech companies, riding hype cycles of disrupting XYZ industry with its incredible new tech thats definitely only a year or 2 away. It’s a tech company.

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          Except that the manufacture shitty products. Manufacturing something makes them not operate like a tech company, which is why Elon is desperate for people to repeat that they’re a tech company. You’re doing his work for him.

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              The difference is that “tech” companies can produce more of their software with minimal or no additional cost. This is why their values tend to be higher than traditional companies manufacturing things. Tesla can’t do that. Their revenue is their shitty cars, without them there’s nothing to run their shitty non-working software on.

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                Apple almost exclusively ships their software with their hardware. They’re still a tech company.

                I see the point you’re making, and it isn’t a terrible one. But the thing is, Tesla isn’t valued like a car company. They’ve enjoyed a market cap at times greater than VAG and Toyota, the largest automakers, who ship orders of magnitude more cars than Tesla does. Tesla’s value has not been in its manufacturing capability but in its position in the market.

                (That is likely to change going forward, as other automakers are catching up in the EV world and Musk has alienated Tesla’s core audience.)

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                  Tesla isn’t valued like a car company.

                  The market being stupid doesn’t change the fact that they are a manufacturing company. The fact that they can convince people to repeat this nonsense is how they keep the market stupid. Keeping the market stupid is how they continue pumping cash to stay afloat.

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      8 months ago

      Surely you’ll be a billionaire too some day, if you only play doormat to the owner class hard enough.

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    8 months ago

    How many times has some fool slept on the job for that asshat only to be given the old heave ho.

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    8 months ago

    Anyone not seeing the writing on the wall, or in some cases in large print on front pages of papers, in relation to this dude deserves to be fired.