• BombOmOm@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    The reduction of monitoring is worth it. DJI calls home with your location and even provides tools for police to view the location of drones and drone operators in real time.

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      I am confused then what is Congress’ problem here?

      Aint this where they are taking us anyway? Or they are worried commie police also getting the same info?

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        I am confused then what is Congress’ problem here?

        The data is also available to DJI, and through them the CCP.

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          I have to inform you that that US has some of the best spy satellite networks on the planet.

          People shocked that other countries play the spook game too is amazing.

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          6 months ago

          So they’ll be able to see that I recorded some footage of some boats near San Francisco?

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            This could be a severe national security problem if the drones sent back the video to DJI as well, then a foreign power would get geotagged high detail video of areas of the part of SF you flew over, VERY useful to a foreign intelligence service.

            And I am not just talking about your drone and your flight, all other people who own and fly drones in the area would also supply data to sutch a system.

            I am not saying that this is what they are doing, but please remember that the Brittish government asked the public to send in their holliday photos of the coast of France to help them plan the D-Day invasions. This kind of information is useful.

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              If they wanted to, they could just send a few Chinese “tourists” over with their DJI (or American) drones and record specific footage instead of metadata about general footage. Or use their satellites. It’s not the 1940s any more.

              When I fly my drone it’s not connected to WiFi, and doesn’t even need to be connected to my phone. What network are they sending gigabytes and gigabytes of video data over when I’m recording people fishing on a lake in the middle of nowhere?

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                When I fly my drone it’s not connected to WiFi, and doesn’t even need to be connected to my phone.

                And do you think you, and you alone are the sole target of chinese spy programs?

                Do you think you speak for everyones behavior when they fly their drones?

                You are whats known as the cost of business. You don’t follow their plan unknowingly, but enough others do that it doesn’t matter if your data is lost.

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                  6 months ago

                  If gigabytes of video data is being streamed by every single DJI drone it should be easy enough to find out. Use the DJI Android app to control a drone and check the app’s data usage before and after.

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                    People won’t do that at scale.

                    Also, China has been caught doing supply chain attacks by inserting chips onto circuit boards to make them easier to compromise. They could slip in a chip that enables a wavelength their satellites can access, for example.

                    That’s the concern Congress has.

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                My point is that you don’t know what data a foreign government will find usefull.

                Satellites are fantastic spying tools, but drones provide a different viewpoint that is far more useful for gathering data that satellites can’t.

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              How realistic is this though?

              I thought most people slap a GoPro on their drone (admittedly know very little about the hobby) and how would China secretly be transmitting so much data (4k video) without anyone noticing?

              Plus if they want surveillance video, they can just have someone fly their own drone here and capture exactly what they want without having to wade through tons of junk that isn’t important to them.

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                I never spoke about realism, I just countered the comment saying that all they filmed was sailing boats in SF, by remonding them that even innocent looking footage can be used by foreign intelligence.

                I even specifically noted that I don’t think they are sending the video footage from a drone back to DJI, I say that purely thinking about the ammount of data needed to be sent.

                It would have been discovered very quickly if that was the case

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                That is exactly what I am saying, as I have sid in other comments, my previous comment was never about is they did it, but rather to explain that even innocent footage is useful to bad guys.

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              At least that was consentual. The UK government basically said "Hey guys, the nazis are bad. So help us plan an attack by sending us your family vacation photos of some beaches on Frances beaches.

              And everyone was like “yeah, alright. That sounds good”

              China is basically like “lets set up spying EVERYWHERE! Even in countries we don’t have claim to.”

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                You missed the point. Whether it’s consensual isn’t important, what’s important is that a foreign power has access to a lot of detailed information about an adversary. It’s hard to quantify the value of a lot of “benign” data points when aggregated.

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        https://www.theverge.com/22985101/dji-aeroscope-ukraine-russia-drone-tracking

        Something that stuck out to me:

        The AeroScope signals are not encrypted, despite what we wrote in a previous version of this post — even though DJI and an independent source both told us they were encrypted, and DJI insisted they were when we did a fact-check, DJI now admits that they aren’t encrypted at all. So they could be picked up by other kinds of receivers.

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          So the verge just took a foreign for profit company at their word, and called it “fact checking”???

          Modern investigative journalism everybody!

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      Oh no, not the location data that has to be shared publicly for safety reasons anyways! God forbid!