• IcyToes@sh.itjust.works
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    1 month ago

    If you can offer a 40% discount and still make profit, your prices are probably 3 times the cost.

    If you cannot go to another supplier, you have vendor lock in.

    I’m an AMD guy, so I got no skin in the game defending Intel, but if you’re shilling this much for TSMC, you aren’t really bringing an unbiased opinion.

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      If you can offer a 40% discount and still make profit

      Maybe they didn’t? Or at least maybe not much.

      if you’re shilling this much for TSMC

      What? How am I shilling for TSMC? And I’m 100% an AMD guy myself, I freaking stuck to AMD during the whole Buldozer shitty period, because I didn’t want an Intel monopoly. And I bought AMD stock when they revealed Ryzen.

      So I do NOT encourage a TSMC monopoly either.

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        A business easily offers a 40% discount. You didn’t critically assess that, ask how, and give off vibes it was a charitable and Intel was ungrateful. TMSC while an interesting business is still a big corp with profitability at heart.

        Even if Intel aren’t the good guys, you cannot assume TMSC is. I like AMD, but I’m under no illusion they could throw consumers under the bus tomorrow for self interest. Right now, it’s king for Linux hardware though.

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          https://archive.fo/VnQUu

          In public, TSMCdownplayed, opens new tab the comments, with its founder calling Gelsinger“a bit rude.” Privately, TSMC said it would no longer honor the discount, the sources said: about 40% off the $23,000, 3-nanometer wafers on which TSMC would print chips for Intel. Intel had to pay full price, shrinking its profit margin on the deal.

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          and give off vibes it was a charitable

          WTF! I did no such thing, that’s 100% on you to put that into it. I think they did it to discourage Intel from investing too heavily in their own production which would compete with TSMC.

          Even if Intel aren’t the good guys

          Again WTF? Where did any of that come from? They are businesses, their purpose is to make money!

          You are being delusional.