New evidence confirms COVID-19 vaccines are overwhelmingly safe::More than 38 million COVID-19 vaccine doses have been administered in Ontario as of Oct. 8, with 23,002 reports of adverse reactions, an incidence of 0.06 per cent, Public Health Ontario says

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    The thing that increased anti-vaxx sentiment and theories of the vaccines killing you or whatever, was governments around the world going full fash with them.

    If you don’t take the vaccine, you can’t enter establishments, you can’t work, you’ll be denied healthcare ahead of someone who has been vaccinated, fined if you don’t take it (in the case of Germany) etc etc. If you want people to get vaccinated en masse, this is entirely the opposite way of doing it. It’s no surprise that there’s now been a decline in vaccine uptake in general.

    That whole period when the vaccines first came out and the governmental coercion has actively damaged public health messaging for the foreseeable future.

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      full fash

      You mean, they told people they couldn’t spread a dangerous virus to others? How very “fash.”

      Fuck that bullshit.

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        If the vaccines completely stopped the virus spreading, this may have been a good point.

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          People die in car accidents despite wearing their seatbelts. Forcing people to wear their seatbelts while driving is wrong because it doesn’t grant 100% survival rate.

          👍

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            Ah, the classic “seatbelt analogy”. Everyone’s favourite vaccine analogy that makes zero sense if you actually just stop and think about it for a minute.

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      The whole period before about behaving responsibility and using masks showed you all you needed to know about how responsible and interested in the general wellbeing most people were so it only made sense to not leave it up to chance with that.

      And it’s not like anyone was forced - only other people were secured from coming in contact with irresponsible and self-centred people that couldn’t care less about them

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        Here in the UK, during the first lockdown, social distancing and the like was adhered to do quite well. More so than the scientists and government expected. Mainly because it was simple instruction that didn’t stop you from going about your business when you needed to get your groceries.

        And it’s not like anyone was forced

        No, they were just told they couldn’t participate in society. But then when they realised that the messaging wasn’t working, they gave up on it.

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          No, they were just told they couldn’t participate in society.

          Yes, when you pose a greater risk to society you do not get to participate in it. This has been true since the start of societies.

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              no, the only people forcing anyone to do anything are the anti vaxxers who want to force everyone to be around them.

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            Do the vaccines work or not?

            Because if they do, the unvaccinated are not a threat to you.

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              They are a threat to the ones incapable of getting vaccinated because of allergies, though.

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              I just don’t want them in society. If they’re unwilling to take the vaccine they probably also don’t wash their hands after using the bathroom.

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                So your view is based purely on prejudice, rather than on fact?

                Interesting parallel to an anti-vaxxer who refuses vaccines based on misinformation, rather than fact.

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                  Yeah, not getting the vaccine is like not returning your shopping cart. It tells me everything I need to know about a person.