New study finds bots and fraud farms responsible for 73% of web traffic::undefined

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      The headline stat is a misinterpretation of the study which was done by Arkose Labs which “provides businesses with lasting bot prevention and account security by sapping the financial motivations of cybercriminals.”

      That’s pretty vague but skimming it sounds like they prevent automated account creation and takeover. The stat comes from the companies they have access to (who need bot protection enough to pay for it), and 76% of activity on the login/account creation was malicious. That makes a lot more sense. All the various hacks and credential leaks result in bots banging in stolen credentials on high value sites.

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        The headline stat is a misinterpretation of the study

        and 76% of activity on the login/account creation was malicious.

        Are you assuming though that that’s 76%, once they’ve created an account, would do no fuether interaction with the Internet after that?

        I’m not sure of the point that you’re trying to make?

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          You think these bots are streaming movies and music? 73% of Internet traffic is not bots. It’s all YouTube, Netflix, Insta, TikTok, Spotify, etc media consumption. 73% of login traffic may be bots, but it’s a teeny drop of global traffic.

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            73% of login traffic may be bots, but it’s a teeny drop of global traffic.

            So you are assuming they’re just logging in and not doing anything else, yes?

            That there are no bots that (for example) watch YouTube videos and then gives them a like up or down, depending how they’ve been paid to do so, etc?

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          Well, I mean, if a bot protection company found malicious activity in account creation, I’m assuming they stopped the account from completing it…?

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            I’m assuming they stopped the account from completing it…?

            They could have let it continue to monitor it, in a honey-pot sort of way, to learn more about the bot, and it’s network.

            But I was asking towards intent, not success. Why would people have bots create accounts and then do absolutely nothing with those accounts afterwards?

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        Arkose does log-in protection for Roblox (and others but that’s the one I’m familiar with) where the user has to do something like rotate a picture before logging in.

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      It amazes me when I spin up some random server on a cloud provider and it’s immediately getting tons of traffic from bots searching for insecure ssh servers and default WordPress admin credentials and then like. If that’s the short of stuff they’re counting, I’d believe it. But yeah, it’s not like all the commenters on this post are bots.

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        Yeah we had a presentation at work from AWS , they said expect all ports and protocols on any aws server you spin up to be scanned in less than 1min of any instance being created

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        But yeah, it’s not like all the commenters on this post are bots.

        What percentage would you guess that are bots as commenters?

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    The web is like a shitty neighborhood now, with stalkers and unpleasant people coming up to you frequently to sell their shady stuff.

    Still works for finding answers to technical questions but if I wasn’t working in tech, I would probably question why im using it in the first place. Is the entertainment value worth the cost?

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    Holy shit, thinking of all the resources that are just wasted for this shit… Imagine you could just slash all web infrastructures by two thirds.

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      I really hate the phrase “bots” because it gives the appearance that they’re all useless and malicious. I guarantee you they lumped in the following extremely valid uses of “bots”:

      • Automated personal scripts that many programmers use, these are technically bots. Hell, I use a “bot” to auto-clip digital Safeway coupons
      • Moderation bots on sites like Lemmy/Reddit
      • Archive efforts

      Are AI chatbots bots? If they use a loose enough definition all this means is humans utilize fuck tons of automation over the Internet, both programmers and not.

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        Tech journalism is fucking garbage. Its always trying to tell me what to think rather than present legit unbiased information. It seems to get worse every year as if these journalist have a hate on for the tech they write about

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          Because they’re used absolutely everywhere, and often back large portions of Internet infrastructure. I’m a backend developer and we have thousands of “bots” running at any given time to keep our systems going. They generate traffic equivalent to thousands of people and are maintained by a 3 person dev team. This is for a relatively small company. When I was at AWS the scale was much more unfathomable.

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            Then the bot goes and gets their little bot scissors

            But digitally.

            and their bot newspaper,

            But digitally.

            then clips up some coupons

            But digitally.

            and hands them to OP.

            But digitally.

            They said we’d all be living in a VR world by now back in the 90s!

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          TamperMonkey (I’ve been told to use ViolentMonkey instead as TamperMonkey isn’t open source) and the script here. Then you can run a script to periodically log into your account in a headless browser and click the button. Unfortunately there’s no coupon API so this is the best solution I could think of.

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      Not really, as with many others the headline is sensationalist. It’s missing the “… on login page attempts for sites that pay for and or use bot protection services.”

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    Soon there will be content created and consumed entirely by generative “ai,” an almost shadow-culture.

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      Was scrolling through Facebook as I still use it to keep in touch with family. 20 sponsored posts for every one actual post. Facebook is terrible.

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        I just went on my annual visit. I’m not sure if it was ublock or what, but it was actually a fairly pleasant experience with no ‘sponsored’ content. Reminded me of the Facebook of old. Accessed through the browser, of course. I don’t want that cancerous app on my phone.

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      How are you about to do that on Facebook? I can’t even sign up without it asking for my ID

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          I didn’t sign into Facebook for 2-3 years and when I tried, despite having the same email and using the linked IG accounts, they demanded my drivers license. Uh, no way in hell I’ll ever do that, so guess I’m not signing into stupid Facebook.

          Curious if you give Discord your phone number?

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    And I thought porn and cat pictures where responsible for 70% of web traffic… TIL

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    Horse shit.

    Sandvine still released traffic reports. So does Cable Labs.

    Maybe attempted connections, but not volume / tonnage / bytes.

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      As long as real users exist on the internet, marketing will follow. If centralized social media will be even more of a shithole than already is, then they will slowly target the decentralized. You won’t escape marketing.

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        But if 73% of traffic is fake, and they monitor traffic to determine sentiment and marketing strategies, then who are they actually marketing TO?

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          Those left over who are still human.

          But you do bring up a great point, what happens when the Internet is nothing but bots/shills?

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        Man they caught Google evil actors using Google’s infra that pumped up view numbers for video impressions and milking advertisers.

        They got swindled millions by the 3ve “scandal”.

        There’s botfarms clicking ads and following brands.

        There’s warehouses full of smartphones that fake download and fake use apps and fake watch video ads…

        At this point it’s a money laundering scheme. I refuse to believe that those people responsible are that stupid.

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    I miss the days when the internet was a fad that most people were apathetic towards.

    before we even had search engines, and had to rely on websites listing links to every website.

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      I recently switched cell providers to save a pile of money, but the new one doesn’t have call control like the old did. 100% of my calls over the last two weeks were spam calls. I keep telling myself the savings are worth it, but my God it’s annoying.

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    i hate it when i open my laptop and there’s an error sign blocking the trackpad