• Aux@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        There are plenty of people who support Israel and believe it is the moral thing to do. Morals are subjective and arbitrary. They cannot be used to judge one’s actions.

        • Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world
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          8 months ago

          They cannot be used to judge one’s actions.

          So, when I say it is my moral obligation to help rid the planet of conservatives because they are evil, I do hope you will not condemn my moral actions.

        • Gabu@lemmy.world
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          8 months ago

          I am morally obligated to punch all conservative scum until they lose a few teeth :)

          • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            8 months ago

            Some of us can resent the genocide committed in the name of our state and civilization, or condoned by our state, while simultaneously being desperate for our personal welfare and also fearing the rising trends of genocide in our own nation, hence we may not only work for genocide-supporting companies to stay alive, but also vote for genocide-condoning neoliberals to vote against fascists.

            I hate being in a position like this (and personally don’t have to work for any company) but here in the States were imminently fucked and only pushing the fuckery down the calandar.

            And few Germans from the days of the reich were forgiven, so I suspect in the aftermath only those Americans who were fed to our detention centers and prisons will ultimately be forgiven, if even them.

            • whoreticulture@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              8 months ago

              If you’re so desperate, work for a restaurant or something. Google isn’t your only option, I’ve lived in the high-cost-of-living bay area with all sorts of jobs, including minimum wage jobs. You can make it work without working for Google ffs

              • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                8 months ago

                It sounds like you got lucky in being able to survive restaurant work and being able to manage surviving in the post-gentrification bay area. Most people are not so lucky.

                To be fair, I don’t have statistics, and we don’t track how many people do morally odious work despite their own ethics because it pays the bills. But we do account for the high numbers of people who tolerate harassment and sexual assault, who tolerate toxic work environments because they need the compensation to eat and pay rent.

                If it helps, morally questionable work does tend to have a high-turnover rate, akin to drone operators in the US military and CIA drone strike programs and the Einsatzgrupen of the German Reich. We humans really do lose sleep over doing work that is linked to massacres.

                As per all things, life in deteriorating societies can be very challenging, to the point that suicides and rampage killings (which are, more or less, angry suicides) occur at conspicuously elevated levels. But some people are going to club seals sooner than succumbing to their own misery in hopes they can survive long enough they no longer have to club seals to sustain themselves.

                  • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                    8 months ago

                    How about then I just say it, then. People in the US in 2024 are in fact, often that desperate. No, frequently, they do not have options. At best they’re choosing between a handful of bad options.