It really depends on what you’re looking for. I’m happy with Lineage, but others go for stricter privacy setups like Graphene. As long as you can avoid G Apps, IMHO you’re fine. But that’s still Android in some form.
The whole Linux phone experiment is a lovely idea that (if I understand correctly) is hampered by the tons of different mobile phone makes and models. Canonical dropped Ubuntu Touch like a hot potato, and it only survived as a community project.
Its the same problem as standardized Unix systems in the 90s. There’s more ideas on how to implement hardware than there are hands to integrate driver software.
When it comes together it’ll be because we either make the manufacturers warp around something like POSIX, or provide a common target on phones like the steam deck.
Otherwise every hardware generation will get the undescribable misery of supporting the last one, from the one they’re on, while writing the next one. The problem tends to compound.
I’d like a comparison to lineage OS. There seems to be a very short supported device list for ubuntu, but maybe thats how they keep the install process simplified. Cyanogen always relied a lot on xda-developers community i think - so many unofficial devices supported just by enthusiasts willing to risk bricking devices.
I recently upgraded to a (used) sony XA2. it was a right pain to install lineage os - way harder than previous samsung S3/4/5 type phones. It was mostly just trying every goddamn usb port on every pc in my house until finally one with which ADB would actually flash the bios.
I’ve never bothered to researach exactly what are the security issues with lineage OS , it’s something where a decent bit of journalism might help. I’m not very into many apps though so i suspect that lowers the risk to me.
I’d like a comparison to lineage OS.
There seems to be a very short supported device list for ubuntu, but maybe thats how they keep the install process simplified.
I recently upgraded to a (used) sony XA2.
it was a right pain to install lineage os - way harder than previous samsung s3/4/5 type phones.
It was mostly just trung every usb port on every pc in my house until ADB would actually flash the bios.
I’ve never bothered to researach exactly what are the security issues with lineage OS , it’s something where a decent bit of journalism might help. I’m not very into many apps though so i suspect that lowers the risk.
Yeah interesting - I don’t know how many say flatpaks will work on arm.
I guess you’re basically able to run most of what a raspberry pi can or whatever is in debian’s arm repos though.
On lineage you can use auroura store too for a less googley halfway house.
The article mentions waydroid - but it doesnt go into that much detail on it. I find waydroid to be very good on a decent linux pc - but does it work well enough on ubuntu touch. I’d not do anything heavy though like mobile games on waydroid - that’d seem wierd.
Is there any benefit/cost though to effectively running your apps via a lineage v.m?
I’d think if there is it might come down to some wierd security thing but probably at cost of startup time or performance, or maybe even power consumption.
It really depends on what you’re looking for. I’m happy with Lineage, but others go for stricter privacy setups like Graphene. As long as you can avoid G Apps, IMHO you’re fine. But that’s still Android in some form.
The whole Linux phone experiment is a lovely idea that (if I understand correctly) is hampered by the tons of different mobile phone makes and models. Canonical dropped Ubuntu Touch like a hot potato, and it only survived as a community project.
Its the same problem as standardized Unix systems in the 90s. There’s more ideas on how to implement hardware than there are hands to integrate driver software.
When it comes together it’ll be because we either make the manufacturers warp around something like POSIX, or provide a common target on phones like the steam deck.
Otherwise every hardware generation will get the undescribable misery of supporting the last one, from the one they’re on, while writing the next one. The problem tends to compound.
Yeah, that makes sense. Thanks!
I’d like a comparison to lineage OS. There seems to be a very short supported device list for ubuntu, but maybe thats how they keep the install process simplified. Cyanogen always relied a lot on xda-developers community i think - so many unofficial devices supported just by enthusiasts willing to risk bricking devices.
I recently upgraded to a (used) sony XA2. it was a right pain to install lineage os - way harder than previous samsung S3/4/5 type phones. It was mostly just trying every goddamn usb port on every pc in my house until finally one with which ADB would actually flash the bios.
I’ve never bothered to researach exactly what are the security issues with lineage OS , it’s something where a decent bit of journalism might help. I’m not very into many apps though so i suspect that lowers the risk to me.
I’m happy with lineage os too.
I’d like a comparison to lineage OS. There seems to be a very short supported device list for ubuntu, but maybe thats how they keep the install process simplified.
I recently upgraded to a (used) sony XA2. it was a right pain to install lineage os - way harder than previous samsung s3/4/5 type phones. It was mostly just trung every usb port on every pc in my house until ADB would actually flash the bios.
I’ve never bothered to researach exactly what are the security issues with lineage OS , it’s something where a decent bit of journalism might help. I’m not very into many apps though so i suspect that lowers the risk.
Lineage gives you a decent app ecosystem (F-droid) with the option to set up Play Store for full Android compatibility
Ubuntu Touch has a very limited ecosystem compared to F-droid, but might be enough for someone willing to do most tasks in a browser.
Stuff like phone calls, pictures, sms, podcasts, music, and other simple tasks will work equally well on either OS assuming your device is supported
Yeah interesting - I don’t know how many say flatpaks will work on arm. I guess you’re basically able to run most of what a raspberry pi can or whatever is in debian’s arm repos though.
On lineage you can use auroura store too for a less googley halfway house.
The article mentions waydroid - but it doesnt go into that much detail on it. I find waydroid to be very good on a decent linux pc - but does it work well enough on ubuntu touch. I’d not do anything heavy though like mobile games on waydroid - that’d seem wierd.
Is there any benefit/cost though to effectively running your apps via a lineage v.m?
I’d think if there is it might come down to some wierd security thing but probably at cost of startup time or performance, or maybe even power consumption.