Spotify's Gustav Söderström talks about AI music, Notebook LM podcasts, and the nuance of building better discovery using LLMs.
  • mPony@lemmy.worldEnglish
    601·
    28 days ago

    Spotify’s plans to take money from subscribers but never pay a fucking dime to anyone else , ever.

  • Tarogar@feddit.orgEnglish
    46·
    28 days ago

    Right. AI music? Hopefully not, it is likely going to lead to generic slop that may infringe on other artists copyright. AI Podcasts? OH GOD NO! factual news isn’t working with AI and you guys think that opinions with AI is a good idea? Are you crazy?

    Now music recommendations? That might just work given that algorithms are already doing a decent job at presenting new ( to the particular user, not by actual age) music that the user may enjoy. The question really is if that is actually better than what we already have. And there is only one way to find out, which is by testing it and then being honest about it.

    • ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      20·
      28 days ago

      Now music recommendations? That might just work given that algorithms are already doing a decent job at presenting new ( to the particular user, not by actual age) music that the user may enjoy

      In my experience they really suck…“oh, you liked that song from this artist? let me just push a shitload that is categorised in the same basic genre without actually considered the specific track you liked”

      It’s so ridiculously generic in its suggestions it’s useless. So yeah, AI can almost only do a better job at this than currently.

    • essteeyou@lemmy.worldEnglish
      317·
      28 days ago

      You’d cancel rather than just not listening to that content?

      Edit: I’m just asking a question, wow.

      • Virkkunen@fedia.io
        26·
        28 days ago

        I never listen to podcasts and yet Spotify shoves them in my face every time I open the app. Spotify also constantly resets my quality preferences back to auto (which is just low quality with another name). Every time I want to shuffle a playlist, Spotify sneaks in songs they think I might like as the first shuffle option. So I do believe they’ll be forcing this AI slop front and center everywhere and it won’t be as simple as not listening to it.

      • VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        6·
        28 days ago

        I cancelled Spotify when they started pushing podcasts in my music app, with no way to turn it off.

        Why pay for a service that actively pushes you towards stuff you don’t want? Especially if there’s alternatives that cost the same and … don’t do that.

      • Mk23simp@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        2·
        28 days ago

        Well, there’s a few aspects of it. If they push it, it could make my experience worse (This tends to happen with any service that’s pushing AI). I also consider it to be highly unethical, so it lowers my opinion of their ethics (not that it’s high to begin with) and makes me more likely to protest them on ethical grounds. After all, I’m here now instead of Reddit for similar reasons.

  • BertramDitore@lemm.eeEnglish
    22·
    28 days ago

    The only legitimate use I can think of for AI in podcasting might be for realtime translations so people who don’t speak the language of the podcaster can still listen. Even that makes me feel weird, but I think it could be done ethically-ish. Same deal for voice-cloning, I think that would be super-useful for realtime translations, so listeners still kinda hear the host’s voice, even translated. But every other use I can think of is ripe for abuse and won’t result in quality content.

    • a_fancy_kiwi@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9·
      28 days ago

      Some YouTube creators are doing this right now. AI generated translations with the creator’s voice. Looking at it from simply a nerds’s perspective, it’s fucking neato

    • 🃏Joker@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
      173·
      28 days ago

      Move to piracy and donate to the artists directly to better support the artist, if that is an option.

      Tidal still take a cut from the artists revenue.

    • Squizzy@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      28 days ago

      Fuck Jack Dorsey too though, and its lacking a few bells ad whistles last time I checked.

  • cyberwolfie@lemmy.mlEnglish
    12·
    28 days ago

    Been off Spotify for over a year now after being on for about 15 years (2008-2023 I think). Trying to prioritize buying music from contemporary artists who are not big. Not too sure about the best places to buy from though, after Bandcamp was sold and laid off a bumch of people. Where does Qobuz or 7digital stack up in terms of paying the artists?

  • painfulasterisk1@lemmy.mlEnglish
    6·
    28 days ago

    When Spotify will unveil that the company will be run by AI and make the job of the CEO, CTO, etc, obsolete? When will the board of directors be replaced by AI? This is the news I want to hear.

      • painfulasterisk1@lemmy.mlEnglish
        1·
        27 days ago

        I’ll discuss this with a few friends that are computer scientists and software engineers. AI job replacement will trickle-up.

        • moseschrute@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          27 days ago

          I’m a computer scientist and software engineer. I’m only a few years out of college but judging by the trajectory of the current AI models, looking like my job won’t be replaced soon. I think the next year or two will solidify whether the gains in AI are tapering off or if it’s still possible for meaningful yearly improvements to AI.

  • Dizzy Devil Ducky@lemm.eeEnglish
    5·
    28 days ago

    The closest I want to AI music is ENUNUNU or Diffsinger, which still require a human(s) to actually put in effort for a good quality song.

    But they don’t care because there’s less profit in letting humans be creative.

  • john117@lemmy.jmsquared.netEnglish
    1·
    27 days ago

    ai music is so soulless, just take a listen to any of it. spotify users have to wake up and jump ship. don’t reward them with this bullshit by giving them money.

    we have to start voting with our wallets to fight back against nonsense like this

  • Luffy879@lemmy.mlEnglish
    15·
    27 days ago

    söderström. So, just asking, is he a meat fetishist too? Edit: Just look up who söder is instead of just downvoting stuff you dont gez