• TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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    Not sure what web framework “made you obsolete” in 2003. I don’t even think jQuery existed then let alone anything you could accurately call a framework

    Edit: just looked it up, first jQuery release was 2006 so I’m not sure what you’re smoking but I want some

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      People genuinely thought ColdFusion would allow untrained businessmen to make complex websites with no coding, only markup. It could generously be described as a “web framework”, and it was released in 1995.

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        Wysiwygs were all the rage in the late 90s early 00s with a promise that the hard part of development was actually just doing the layout.

        Tools like frontpage have been tricking incredulous entrepreneurs that programming is easy since at least then.

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          In revenge for reminding me of Frontpage I will also mention Dreamweaver. God just the memory of trying to clean up copy text someone edited in Frontpage is giving me nausea.

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            In revenge for reminding me of Frontpage I will also mention Dreamweaver

            Small business owners learning about word2html.net for the first time…

            I’m just saying, this is an arms race and nobody will win.

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      I’m assuming he means backend frameworks, like Ruby on Rails, Codeigniter, CakePHP, etc. That fits the timeframe, I think?

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      Wow. I forget that there are babies on the Internet, now.

      There were back-end web frameworks as early as the 1990s. The Internet started long before JavaScript existed.

      God I feel old, now. Fuck. Lol.

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        Yeah, I didn’t do backend stuff for a while so maybe I somehow missed those being called frameworks. Sounds like they were though. And it’s nice of you to say I’m young lol

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          Yeah, I didn’t do backend stuff for a while so maybe I somehow missed those being called frameworks.

          Oh sure. And yeah, the term tends to be used for front end now.

          And it’s nice of you to say I’m young lol

          Lol. You’re welcome!