Ukraine's leading mobile operator Kyivstar has signed an agreement with Starlink to introduce direct-to-cell satellite connectivity in the country, Kyivstar's parent company VEON said on Monday (Dec 30). Direct-to-cell services are connected to satellites that can beam phone signals from space directly to
A megastructure filling space with trash, a project that in paper looks like either impossible to complete or a total waste of energy, time and pollution to solve a problem we don’t have* and leaving this new net of satellites on the hands of a psycopath.
I really like the idea of starlink, but those are the cons I can think off.
*connectivity is solved by adding cables. What’s the cost (money, energy, pollution + life) of a cable crossing the Atlantic vs the cost of a satellite?
Inb4, I’m not siding with anyone, just trying to make the discussion roll.
Serious question, have you ever been outside of a major city? Because that’s the type of ignorance you typically see from someone who’s spent their entire life in an urban environment.
You’re not running fibre out to every remote settlement, high country station, or remote farmhouse, most of these places aren’t even connected to the grid.
Never mind the many marine vessels that have Starlink.
I generally prefer arguments without this kind of hostility, specially after I specifically said that I was just enumerating whichever cons I could think off.
I think you understand that starlink did not invented internet through satellites. Do we really need this escalation?
People keep posting that and it’s like they don’t actually think about it. Space is fucking enormous it’s very well named. In order to fill all viable orbits up you would have to have literally hundreds of millions of satellites. It’s not like they just whizzing around randomly, we know where they are, so any launch in rocket can avoid them, obviously so because there’s never been a case of a rocket been hit by a satellite.
This got brought up when the movie gravity came out (not a movie that really seems to understand physics itself). We don’t have enough satellites in space for that kind of chain reaction to happen, and we know this for a fact because Russia has blown up some of their own satellites, and it hasn’t caused a chain reaction.
There is a minimum number and density of satellites required for this situation to occur, even theoretically. We don’t know exactly what that minimum number is, but we know that we are below it.
The potential for the issue is being taken seriously, but no one’s actually suggesting that the issue has come about or that there is any risk of coming about in the near future. We’re just implementing long-term safety measures.
Care to elaborate on why not?
A megastructure filling space with trash, a project that in paper looks like either impossible to complete or a total waste of energy, time and pollution to solve a problem we don’t have* and leaving this new net of satellites on the hands of a psycopath.
I really like the idea of starlink, but those are the cons I can think off.
*connectivity is solved by adding cables. What’s the cost (money, energy, pollution + life) of a cable crossing the Atlantic vs the cost of a satellite?
Inb4, I’m not siding with anyone, just trying to make the discussion roll.
Serious question, have you ever been outside of a major city? Because that’s the type of ignorance you typically see from someone who’s spent their entire life in an urban environment.
You’re not running fibre out to every remote settlement, high country station, or remote farmhouse, most of these places aren’t even connected to the grid.
Never mind the many marine vessels that have Starlink.
I generally prefer arguments without this kind of hostility, specially after I specifically said that I was just enumerating whichever cons I could think off.
I think you understand that starlink did not invented internet through satellites. Do we really need this escalation?
I mean, most of the points you came out with are nonsense, and not worth dignifying with a response.
Especially considering a dead Starlink satellite will deorbit and burn up in under a decade, because they fly so low.
Also this.
People keep posting that and it’s like they don’t actually think about it. Space is fucking enormous it’s very well named. In order to fill all viable orbits up you would have to have literally hundreds of millions of satellites. It’s not like they just whizzing around randomly, we know where they are, so any launch in rocket can avoid them, obviously so because there’s never been a case of a rocket been hit by a satellite.
I think you are greatly underestimating how a chain reaction works.
This got brought up when the movie gravity came out (not a movie that really seems to understand physics itself). We don’t have enough satellites in space for that kind of chain reaction to happen, and we know this for a fact because Russia has blown up some of their own satellites, and it hasn’t caused a chain reaction.
There is a minimum number and density of satellites required for this situation to occur, even theoretically. We don’t know exactly what that minimum number is, but we know that we are below it.
The potential for the issue is being taken seriously, but no one’s actually suggesting that the issue has come about or that there is any risk of coming about in the near future. We’re just implementing long-term safety measures.