First RCS now this, today has been wild

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    1 year ago

    I’m a Linux guy and I don’t really care about Windows, but I’m glad to see this happening and every day I thank Europe for being the main entity fighting for regulation of big tech monopolies, because America is really failing.

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      1 year ago

      Its nuts that during the Obama admin, all anyone cared about was the threat of zero privacy. Now everyone in the US has surrendered to it, because our politicians have sold our digital privacy rights to the tech companies.

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        1 year ago

        If we had actual IT giants in Europe, this would look very different.

        I’ve seen how the car industry in Germany only got a slap on the wrist because of Dieselgate and even got the chance to send out advertisement payed by the government.

        I feel like the only reason stuff like this gets pushed so hard is because we try to slow down the current IT giants until we get our shit together.

        I’m glad that we do it, but i wouldn’t say we are better than anyone else.

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          1 year ago

          Thanks for the honest take, a lot of people get caught up in the idea that if an organization does something that aligns with them, they are good or doing it for the same reasons.

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          There is a lot of protectionism at the heart of the EU. They are quite happy to heavily regulate Big Tech when it’s not based in their own market. Unfortunately they don’t have quite the same passion for nurturing the European tech industry as much as stifling the foreign ones.

          They are it purely fighting these fights for the greater good, or they wouldn’t also be pushing things like the recent browser certificate debacle.

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          Yeah because dieselgate was a travesty and all companies have a moral obligation to find ways around the idiocy of the US EPA as they actively make our cars more harmful to the environment by writing poorly thought out rules that encourage larger vehicles as well as completely failing to understand how to calculate diesel emissions for vehicles in a sensible manner.

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          Nah, it still would be much harder.

          Because the EU exists out of many different countries with each their own government.

          To lobby something through you have to bribe the majority of them, instead of just one.

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      EU is very much a mixed bag. On the one hand, they do this, on the other hand, they tried to ban P2P encryption and microtargetted religious and elderly in resisting countries, feeding them the classic “it’s for the children’s safety” lies.

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        Though we have to remind ourselves that it’s mainly the EU Commission who does this.

        The Supreme Court spoke out against it from the very beginning, the Parliament voted against it, it’s really only the Commission who doesn’t want to understand that EU law applies to them, too.

        Quite a few positions in there that need to be held by new people who understand the damn law.

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        10 months ago

        they tried to ban P2P encryption

        They recently enshrined it as an unalienable human right as a world first.

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      1 year ago

      I wonder if Windows in Non-EU areas does not have this kind of choice.

      Well, does not matter, I use Linux, too.

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        1 year ago

        Hey hey hey, don’t just go around generalizing. Not all Linux users are like that (but I am, and I use arch BTW).

        Like I’m sure we’re bound to find at least ONE Linux user who doesn’t tell.

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        I use Linux (one that’s based on Arch btw) Make one guess at:

        • my diet
        • what I think is the best text editor

        Seriously, how am I supposed to keep quiet when I find a clearly superior choice? Especially when most people feel a psychological barrier to trying it, that turns out to be not nearly as big as the adcantages.

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            1 year ago

            Points for the editor, but weirdly enough, not a lot of coffee (<1 per day) and I didn’t drink coffee at all before a few weeks ago.

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            Exactly! I use neovim as a full IDE (got started quickly using the nvchad template). And I think you know which “at least meat-reduced” diet is most associated with evangelizing ;)