It’s unfortunate. We have two great, up-to-date, premier DEs in KDE and Gnome, yet people always turn it into some console war-style shit-flinging.
And it’s not the devs, it’s the losers on forums like this. KDE and Gnome devs have demonstrated time and time again that they can happily work together on making good, cross-DE standards, and plenty of devs directly work on both projects, even.
To be blunt, I believe the KDE fanatics are more abrasive in this. Whenever there’s a KDE announcement people are generally happy, even people who don’t use KDE.
Whenever there’s a Gnome announcement it’s “omg KDE is so much better”, “what feature did they remove this time??1”, “Gnome devs are evil pieces of shit who hate their users”, “lol MacOS clone much???” (I really don’t understand that one), etc.
There’s so much elitism in the Linux community. I hate it.
You can find idiots in every group. Usually, however, these are always just the loud minority. I bet the majority of users simply use what they want and stay completely out of any discussions.
For my part, I have always used KDE / Plasma and I will continue to do so. Gnome just doesn’t appeal to me. Is Gnome therefore bad? No. I just prefer something else. Just like I use a different editor instead of vim, for example.
This is how it should be. Accepting that not everything is your cup of tea, but recognising that it has its place, others value it, and it contributes to the Linux ecosystem.
I don’t have any use-case for a tiling window manager, for example, but I have zero intention of shitting all over various TWM projects whenever they’re brought up.
I understand that Gnome kinda goes against the traditional desktop paradigm, and some people really aren’t into that, but those people can just… not use it. I don’t get what all the hate is about.
I don’t have any use-case for a tiling window manager, for example, but I have zero intention of shitting all over various TWM projects whenever they’re brought up.
I feel the same way. I think tiling is useless (for me). Except in the terminal emulator. Strangely enough, I use it there.
I understand that Gnome kinda goes against the traditional desktop paradigm
Which is not a bad thing at first. Just because something has been done for years doesn’t necessarily mean it’s better.
The Helix editor, for example, uses the selection → action model. With vim, it is exactly the opposite. That’s why I prefer Helix. And yes, this is my own subjective opinion.
For real. Heck I’m a KDE fanboy right now but it’s FOSS and community driven FOSS at that. A rising tide lifts all boats is very real for us!
But people still treat it as if KDE getting better this time or Gnome getting better means the other is losing out on something. Instead them getting learn and growth off of each others expirmenta and works.
It’s unfortunate. We have two great, up-to-date, premier DEs in KDE and Gnome, yet people always turn it into some console war-style shit-flinging.
And it’s not the devs, it’s the losers on forums like this. KDE and Gnome devs have demonstrated time and time again that they can happily work together on making good, cross-DE standards, and plenty of devs directly work on both projects, even.
To be blunt, I believe the KDE fanatics are more abrasive in this. Whenever there’s a KDE announcement people are generally happy, even people who don’t use KDE.
Whenever there’s a Gnome announcement it’s “omg KDE is so much better”, “what feature did they remove this time??1”, “Gnome devs are evil pieces of shit who hate their users”, “lol MacOS clone much???” (I really don’t understand that one), etc.
There’s so much elitism in the Linux community. I hate it.
You can find idiots in every group. Usually, however, these are always just the loud minority. I bet the majority of users simply use what they want and stay completely out of any discussions.
For my part, I have always used KDE / Plasma and I will continue to do so. Gnome just doesn’t appeal to me. Is Gnome therefore bad? No. I just prefer something else. Just like I use a different editor instead of vim, for example.
This is how it should be. Accepting that not everything is your cup of tea, but recognising that it has its place, others value it, and it contributes to the Linux ecosystem.
I don’t have any use-case for a tiling window manager, for example, but I have zero intention of shitting all over various TWM projects whenever they’re brought up.
I understand that Gnome kinda goes against the traditional desktop paradigm, and some people really aren’t into that, but those people can just… not use it. I don’t get what all the hate is about.
I feel the same way. I think tiling is useless (for me). Except in the terminal emulator. Strangely enough, I use it there.
Which is not a bad thing at first. Just because something has been done for years doesn’t necessarily mean it’s better.
The Helix editor, for example, uses the selection → action model. With vim, it is exactly the opposite. That’s why I prefer Helix. And yes, this is my own subjective opinion.
For real. Heck I’m a KDE fanboy right now but it’s FOSS and community driven FOSS at that. A rising tide lifts all boats is very real for us!
But people still treat it as if KDE getting better this time or Gnome getting better means the other is losing out on something. Instead them getting learn and growth off of each others expirmenta and works.