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  • Derin@lemmy.beru.cotoTechnology@lemmy.worldMatrix 2.0 Is Here!
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    1 month ago

    I like this reddit comment’s explanation:

    As someone said before, compare it to E-Mail.

    Matrix ~ smtp/pop3/imap (protocol layer)

    synapse ~ sendmail/postfix/dovecot/exchange/… (server)

    element, fluffy, … ~ thunderbird, outlook, pine, elm, … (clients)

    Everyone can host it’s own server and have it’s on private chat cloud. Thats like E-Mail and other opensource chat servers like Rocket.Chat, Mattermost and so on.

    But like for E-Mail, it is easy possible to federate with others (like mail: “talk” to other mailservers), to be able to chat with people on other Matrix Servers. That’s the difference to most of the other opensource chat.servers, which are stuck to their cloud.

    As for EMail: Choose your best weapon, will say, client or server software. The protocol is free and will stay free. At this time, there’s mainly synapse as the reference implementation from matrix.org and upcoming dendrite, but more servers will be available in future I think. At client side, theres element as the reference implementation and also some others, for example fluffy.chat.

    Another cool feature ist bridging. The protocol specification allows bridges to other chat-systems, so you are for example able to talk to IRC-Servers or XMPP-Servers too. Many bridges are in development, less are stable. But more to come in future.

    Matrix.org is “outsourced” from university and responsble for developing the specs. They are the big brain behind. They also server matrix.org as free service for people to test matrix or use it without having their own servers.

    Element.io is also an outsourced company, which is developing element (reference clients). They are also selling hosted solutions to get money to the project.

    Both are under the roof of the new Vector limited.

    Because the Api is free, everyone can produce own servers an clients and (in theory) no one can take the whole network over. (in practice: if a big company does its own “cool” non open addons and has enough users, the same shit as for xmpp and WhatsApp could happen…)

    Because everyone can host its own servers *and* optionally federate, the same product can be used for high secure private chat-clouds, for example in hostpital, military, schools, whatever, but it can also be uses to talk everyone like e-mail or phone. *And* no one has the masterhost, so no one has all data and no one can change the rules overnight to get money, more data or whatever.

    From functional side: Matrix is what some people call “modern”, it has text chat, you can send files, you can do voice- and video-calls (in element: 1:1, for groups with jisi as backend) and send voice-messages (at least in fluffy.chat, upcoming in element also). You can also plugin things like etherpad or BigBluButton and send cute stickers if needed. You can structure your contacts with “spaces” (beta).

    Element got better and better in the last year and is imho very easy to use for now, but with some last edges. Fluffy is somewhat easier some users as far as I’ve heared but not feature complete.

    I hope, Matrix will be the E-Mail-Version of Chat in the future. I have reviewed some systems for my university and it was the only one from which I think it has the potential to do so. So, give it a try. It’s great.


  • Derin@lemmy.beru.cotoFediverse@lemmy.worldMatrix 2.0 Is Here!
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    It’s the issues with XMPP’s spec: you don’t just use XMPP, you use XMPP + your favorite optional spec implementations.

    If your friends aren’t on the same server/client combo then you won’t be able to communicate with them (effectively).

    I loved XMPP, still do, but haven’t used it in years. If it were to get a single, matrix-style “spec release” (think an aggregation of existing features into one collection) that contains/requires a bunch of modern chat features I’ve come to expect from programs, then I could see it potentially having a resurgence.


  • I’m very excited for this! Granted, I do wish they’d stop “announcing” Matrix 2.0, but I think the release of SSS alone is reason enough for celebration.

    I have sync issues with even Slack or WhatsApp when I use an old device that hasn’t updated in a while - Matrix’s new sync scheme is genuinely fantastic and fixes all the issues my aging synapse server was having (4+ year server means those initial syncs on log-in could tak upwards of 10 minutes).

    Now I just want Element Call to work with my pre-existing accounts and then I’ll be ready for the next Matrix 2.0 announcement 😂




  • Yeah, really don’t get this one. As an example, I’ve been supporting the guy who writes most of the software I use via Github sponsors for a while, now. It’s nice to get access to additional support chat rooms and perks and stuff, but just the feeling alone is satisfying enough.

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    I genuinely recommend those with gainful employment to consider supporting the people who make the software and media you like (E.g. Patreon).

    Issue reports and the likes are nice, but they’re really not a substitute for cash (in my opinion).




  • Derin@lemmy.beru.cotoSelfhosted@lemmy.worldSyncthing Android app discontinued
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    2 months ago

    I’m annoyed to see you getting down voted - I had a similar issue years ago with my work MacBook (couldn’t run a custom WM because any modification to the Finder was blocked without putting the machine into “unsafe” mode).

    I love OSS, but without a verifiable way to distribute it large swaths of the workforce won’t be able to use it.

    F-Droid is great, but sadly it isn’t enough.








  • Aah, now I understand.

    There is no such setting that I’m immediately aware of - but I am automatically getting messages for my folders. So I’m assuming it’s doing something in the background: most likely a periodic sync for the entire account.

    Definitely doesn’t sound like the behavior you wanted, my bad. But, at least there are notifications on the folders once mail is received. 😅

    Edit: In the repo for their sync engine it explains:

    Mailspring uses a fairly basic syncing algorithm, which runs on two threads with two open connections to the mail server. Within each thread, work is performed synchronously.

    Background Worker: Periodically iterates over folders and (depending on the supported IMAP features) uses CONDSTORE / XYZRESYNC to check for mail or performs either a “local” or “deep” sync of part of the folder’s UID space.

    Foreground Worker: Idles on the primary folder and wakes to syncs changes. Also wakes to perform other tasks, like fetching message bodies the user clicks.

    So the foreground worker only idles on the primary folder, but it does slowly iterate over all folders in the background.

    No settings have been added for this functionality (that I’m aware of).

    Edit 2: Went back and read your original comment; hadn’t noticed the PR was yours. If that’s the case then you’re probably aware of how the sync works anyway. My bad if I’ve posted stuff you’re already aware of.


  • Fastmail.

    Can you choose which folders use real-time push vs which folders use polling?

    I’m afraid not. I’m pretty sure the entire account uses polling. I’ll usually open the app and hit F5 to quickly poll for results, otherwise I’m waiting for the next sync.

    Having said that, the unread counter works fine for sub-folders:

    Edit: I was wrong, Mailspring uses the IMAP IDLE extension to wait for new mail delivery. Still doesn’t stop me from spamming F5 when I’m waiting for new mail to arrive.