• ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com
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    2 days ago

    This is actually a good point. Last time I said something good about China I was attacked on lemmy for it being censored. As if that doesn’t happen here

    • “Lemmy” isn’t one thing. Every community on every instance is different so you didn’t get censored on “Lemmy” you get moderated in a specific community. Lemmy itself (the software) is censorship proof meaning you are free to launch you own instance, as you have done, with your own communities and post there and no one would be able to censor you and it would federate to any linked instance to your subscribers.

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      1 day ago

      There is no contradiction here, because the communists, with their customary candor, acknowledge the necessity of stifling speech they deem to be harmful. It is the liberals, those self-appointed guardians of unfettered discourse, who are engaging in hypocrisy. They wax lyrical about the sanctity of free expression, only to abandon their lofty principles the moment their narrative falters.

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        7 hours ago

        because the communists,

        Show us on the doll where the communists touched you…

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            7 hours ago

            Where and who are these communists you’re referring to?

            I asked like this, because it’s generally a hallucination, as communists have no real power over others, anywhere on this planet. So, it’s a logical impossibility that you could have experienced any kind of censorship done by communists.

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                6 hours ago

                Communists haven’t held power in China in a very long time… If they did, they wouldn’t be a state capitalist society.

                And how have the Vietnamese and Cuban governments censored your speech lately? And what reach would you say they have on social media?

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                  6 hours ago

                  How to say you don’t have any clue about China without saying you don’t have any clue about China. If you genuinely want to learn about China I can recommend this book, but we both know that you don’t https://redletterspp.com/products/the-east-is-still-red

                  And how have the Vietnamese and Cuban governments censored your speech lately? And what reach would you say they have on social media?

                  I’m sure you can figure out how google works all on your own. The reality is that no society practices free speech absolutism, and the only question is what type of speech gets censored. I urge you to spend a bit of time educating yourself on the subject you’re attempting to debate here instead of wasting everyone’s time.

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                    6 hours ago

                    Oh, I understand China enough to know they aren’t communists. Communism isn’t “Whenever the state does things” or “Whenever the state gets bigger”.

                    I’m sure you can figure out how google works all on your own

                    I’m sure I can, however, I cannot see any large levers of power either of those governments have over people not inside of their national borders.

                    And, to be honest, I’m not sure how much either of them are “communist”, since communism requires a stateless society in order to be considered “communist”.

                    Like, do you even know what communism is?