It is a fairly minor release for gnome. The problem with KDE is that it has so many features that it is harder to use and setup. It also doesn’t have a focus on stability.
They’ve also had to spend several cycles rearchitecting the codebase and reducing duplicated efforts.
Plasma 6’s future seems very bright.
Especially if they keep improving Breeze especially if they keep focusing on sane defaults and a simple unified and consistent style.
And file manager changes, settings changes, account integration changes, notification system changes, changes to a handful of their other core apps, compositor improvements, memory optimisations, a new rendering system, hardened security for their image viewer, and a bunch of accessibility improvements.
But, you know, if your attention span only allows you to focus on a new wallpaper, then sure.
I love how the complaint makes even less sense when you look at the KDE mega announcement from yesterday. The third thing listed is a new wallpaper.
Love KDE, but they have some really annoying users.
It’s unfortunate. We have two great, up-to-date, premier DEs in KDE and Gnome, yet people always turn it into some console war-style shit-flinging.
And it’s not the devs, it’s the losers on forums like this. KDE and Gnome devs have demonstrated time and time again that they can happily work together on making good, cross-DE standards, and plenty of devs directly work on both projects, even.
To be blunt, I believe the KDE fanatics are more abrasive in this. Whenever there’s a KDE announcement people are generally happy, even people who don’t use KDE.
Whenever there’s a Gnome announcement it’s “omg KDE is so much better”, “what feature did they remove this time??1”, “Gnome devs are evil pieces of shit who hate their users”, “lol MacOS clone much???” (I really don’t understand that one), etc.
There’s so much elitism in the Linux community. I hate it.
You can find idiots in every group. Usually, however, these are always just the loud minority. I bet the majority of users simply use what they want and stay completely out of any discussions.
For my part, I have always used KDE / Plasma and I will continue to do so. Gnome just doesn’t appeal to me. Is Gnome therefore bad? No. I just prefer something else. Just like I use a different editor instead of vim, for example.
This is how it should be. Accepting that not everything is your cup of tea, but recognising that it has its place, others value it, and it contributes to the Linux ecosystem.
I don’t have any use-case for a tiling window manager, for example, but I have zero intention of shitting all over various TWM projects whenever they’re brought up.
I understand that Gnome kinda goes against the traditional desktop paradigm, and some people really aren’t into that, but those people can just… not use it. I don’t get what all the hate is about.
I don’t have any use-case for a tiling window manager, for example, but I have zero intention of shitting all over various TWM projects whenever they’re brought up.
I feel the same way. I think tiling is useless (for me). Except in the terminal emulator. Strangely enough, I use it there.
I understand that Gnome kinda goes against the traditional desktop paradigm
Which is not a bad thing at first. Just because something has been done for years doesn’t necessarily mean it’s better.
The Helix editor, for example, uses the selection → action model. With vim, it is exactly the opposite. That’s why I prefer Helix. And yes, this is my own subjective opinion.
For real. Heck I’m a KDE fanboy right now but it’s FOSS and community driven FOSS at that. A rising tide lifts all boats is very real for us!
But people still treat it as if KDE getting better this time or Gnome getting better means the other is losing out on something. Instead them getting learn and growth off of each others expirmenta and works.
This would be a minor release in KDE
We get it, you use KDE btw
Very cool, we’re very proud of you.
Thanks
I don’t
It is a fairly minor release for gnome. The problem with KDE is that it has so many features that it is harder to use and setup. It also doesn’t have a focus on stability.
KDE has been very stable for years.
That’s not my experience. I’ve had bugs
Certainly not what I’ve experienced. But it’s definitely a lot better than it was 2 years ago.
I use it daily on three devices running two different distros (void and arch). It’s been as stable as xfce.
I believe you. It’s just far from my experience.
They’ve also had to spend several cycles rearchitecting the codebase and reducing duplicated efforts.
Plasma 6’s future seems very bright. Especially if they keep improving Breeze especially if they keep focusing on sane defaults and a simple unified and consistent style.
I’m not sure what you mean??
KDE is usable out of the box, and very easy to use.
Not for me. I want my desktop to be functional and I don’t really customize all that much.
I mean, I run basically stock KDE with the dark theme. It seems functional but maybe we just have different ideas of functional?
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And file manager changes, settings changes, account integration changes, notification system changes, changes to a handful of their other core apps, compositor improvements, memory optimisations, a new rendering system, hardened security for their image viewer, and a bunch of accessibility improvements.
But, you know, if your attention span only allows you to focus on a new wallpaper, then sure.
But if you want to get into the weeds a bit:
https://ftp.fau.de/gnome/core/46/46.beta/NEWS
I love how the complaint makes even less sense when you look at the KDE mega announcement from yesterday. The third thing listed is a new wallpaper.
Love KDE, but they have some really annoying users.
It’s unfortunate. We have two great, up-to-date, premier DEs in KDE and Gnome, yet people always turn it into some console war-style shit-flinging.
And it’s not the devs, it’s the losers on forums like this. KDE and Gnome devs have demonstrated time and time again that they can happily work together on making good, cross-DE standards, and plenty of devs directly work on both projects, even.
To be blunt, I believe the KDE fanatics are more abrasive in this. Whenever there’s a KDE announcement people are generally happy, even people who don’t use KDE.
Whenever there’s a Gnome announcement it’s “omg KDE is so much better”, “what feature did they remove this time??1”, “Gnome devs are evil pieces of shit who hate their users”, “lol MacOS clone much???” (I really don’t understand that one), etc.
There’s so much elitism in the Linux community. I hate it.
You can find idiots in every group. Usually, however, these are always just the loud minority. I bet the majority of users simply use what they want and stay completely out of any discussions.
For my part, I have always used KDE / Plasma and I will continue to do so. Gnome just doesn’t appeal to me. Is Gnome therefore bad? No. I just prefer something else. Just like I use a different editor instead of vim, for example.
This is how it should be. Accepting that not everything is your cup of tea, but recognising that it has its place, others value it, and it contributes to the Linux ecosystem.
I don’t have any use-case for a tiling window manager, for example, but I have zero intention of shitting all over various TWM projects whenever they’re brought up.
I understand that Gnome kinda goes against the traditional desktop paradigm, and some people really aren’t into that, but those people can just… not use it. I don’t get what all the hate is about.
I feel the same way. I think tiling is useless (for me). Except in the terminal emulator. Strangely enough, I use it there.
Which is not a bad thing at first. Just because something has been done for years doesn’t necessarily mean it’s better.
The Helix editor, for example, uses the selection → action model. With vim, it is exactly the opposite. That’s why I prefer Helix. And yes, this is my own subjective opinion.
For real. Heck I’m a KDE fanboy right now but it’s FOSS and community driven FOSS at that. A rising tide lifts all boats is very real for us!
But people still treat it as if KDE getting better this time or Gnome getting better means the other is losing out on something. Instead them getting learn and growth off of each others expirmenta and works.
Both have a new wallpaper, this is truly an age of innovation.
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