• whoreticulture@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    8 months ago

    Hm funny how the government isn’t banning spying, but is asking for foreign companies to be sold? It’s okay when Facebook does it.

    also lmao at this “I concede” comment bro not everything is a debate

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      8 months ago

      Funnily enough. If you weren’t jumping to conclusions about things not being said. I actually agree with you on that. I think it’s hypocritical that the government is doing this. I’m still allowed and have good reason to dislike tiktoc more.

      You’re welcome to go look at my post history from the last few days. I’ve made the exact argument that it is hypocritical. And believe me I’d rather move off to something like peer tube entirely. But there’s logistics still needing to be addressed before that. And currently we’re largely stuck in a few inescapabe duopolies. Least worst of two inadequate choices. And yes YouTube wins that technically by being mildly less manipulative. Not by much. Believe me I know how much their algorithm stirs the pot trying to get engagement.

      And yes I know it’s not a debate. That was specifically why I said that. To point out that it wasn’t a debate that there were no accusations of fact or anything being discussed there. You were simply jumping to a conclusion that was unsupported.

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          I got no love for NYT. Again mister not yet month old account. Look at my post history. I regularly point out our medias fash bias. What evidence do you have that China. A country known for meddling in and manipulating business in China. Is not meddling in and manipulating this particular Chinese owned brand.

          Let it not be neglected that you just moved your goalposts. But if you feel so strongly about this. Surely you must have some hard evidence to share with us poor brainwashed plebs. 😏 Starting to smell awfully hexbear/grad.

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            I don’t care about creating a track record on my social media accounts, I share personal details often enough and hop between accounts. Weird thing to bring up. Is account age the new dick measuring contest?

            What goalposts did I move? I called you brainwashed, and then I told you why I said that. You’re using debate-bro buzzwords that you don’t understand.

            I’m not saying China isn’t meddling (although the evidence presented in the NYT opinion peace honestly seemed pretty week to me), but the US-based social media companies are definitely spying. The US could outlaw the spying, but instead they have made a massively overreaching bill. It applies to any company with at least a 20% stake by people/entities based in countries seemed “foreign adversaries”. It’s ridiculously unconstitutional. And you’re being brainwashed and fearmongered into defending it.

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              You know exactly why we bring it up. And you know just how pathetic that rebuttal was. I don’t have to tell you that’s for sure.

              Bragging about having multiple accounts for the purpose of ban evasion is a bold strategy cotton. We’ll see how it plays out. But I don’t think it’s quite the reputational flex you think it is.

              And what’s with bringing up the NYT bullshit again. I already said I don’t trust nor am I referring in any way to the New York times. You keep bringing this up like you’re making some sort of point. Having some sort of conversation with someone no one else can see. Are you broken? The fact that China controls and manipulates every single business that operates inside China is something that’s been reported on for decades. Through multiple Outlets and multiple sources. It’s not something controversial unheard of or without base.

              I absolutely think it’s hypocritical and stupid that the United States is Banning tiktok without at least Banning daily wire and other similar Outlets as well. They’re all manipulative propaganda ultimately. Although I don’t think we should be banning any of them myself. Just saying they’d be less hypocritical if they did.

              It’s clear you REALLY like Xi though sport. Maybe someday he will notice you. But I know for sure that I won’t. Bye grad.

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                I … do not care about reputation I just comment on posts. You are playing Dick Measuring Contest and I don’t even have one.

                Not bragging about the multiple accounts, just explaining to you. 🤷🏻‍♂️

                You complained about me moving the goalposts and now you’re mad I brought up the NYT and explained more deeply why I called you brainwashed? You didn’t even tell me how I moved the goalposts, did you forget about that and decide to just focus on trying to discredit my existence? That goalposts thing didn’t work I guess?

                You’re not listening to what I’m saying. The tiktok ban is a massive overreach of government power. If the government wanted to prevent spying, they could have passed a law about spying and collecting user data. TikTok operates as a business in the US and would be subject to those laws.

                I’m not “grad” but I am a leftist, that’s not something I am trying to hide nor is it something I am ashamed of, and the fact that you think that’s a bad thing is not surprising whatsoever because you’ve been brainwashed into defending fascist government laws such as this Adversarial App Ban. It honestly sounds like you don’t even know what’s going on? You want Daily Wire banned? That’s not an app, it’s a media outlet, and that would be a massive First Amendment breach.