• GrymEdm@lemmy.world
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    Bullet vending machines? Just in case you find yourself running low on bullets while out and about in the city? “Damn it. They’re out of Snickers bars so I guess I’ll just settle for some 9mm.”

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      Because it is currently the most advanced way to pretend you are doing age verification when really you aren’t that is available on the market.

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        How about this: scan your state issued ID. My license has a barcode, and bars already scan it, so it’s a solved problem, no AI needed. The process should essentially be:

        1. scan license
        2. snap picture of face
        3. send to police for lookup - needed to verify you’re not a felon or whatever, there’s more to it than just age verification
        4. accept or reject transaction

        The only AI that needs to exist would be at the local precinct, and used for related ID verification checks.

        Or how about this, instead of all this BS, put the vending machine in the store and have a clerk check your ID like they normally would.

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      Things like this are literally just so that there is a test case to make it up to the Supreme Court. They do something ridiculous that obviously violates the intent of the law but mostly stays inside the letter of the law, in hopes that the Supreme Court will take it up and overturn the law. So, yes, the fact that the vending machine can technically sell bullets to minors is a feature, not a bug. Why is their endgame getting rid of age restrictions for firearms and ammunition? You’d have to ask the death cult themselves about that one.

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      Because AI is racist and the US never developed gun laws until a bunch of black folks in California decided to exercise their rights

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    Why in the everliving fuck is that a thing anyone needed? Just go to a gun store and show your ID if needed for fucks sake

    We don’t need a new way to buy bullets, we certainly don’t need a vending machine for them, and if we’re getting one anyway it certainly doesn’t need AI, who the fuck dreamt this up and thought it was a good idea??

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      As a big proponent of the 2A and generally in favor of less restrictions, I also don’t see the point. Here are the times I’d need ammo:

      • at the range - just call someone over and they’ll deliver it to you
      • before going hunting - I’m heading to the hunting store anyway, I’ll just pick some up there
      • a trip to BLM land to go shooting - pull from stash and refresh it w/ an online order
      • when picking up a new gun - gun stores tend to have ammo

      Vending machines tend to be in more urban environments, and if I’m there, I either already have ammo (if I’m carrying concealed) or I’m not carrying a firearm anyway. In the rare situation where I’m carrying a firearm w/o ammo (why?), I’m not going to stop and load my gun in public, so why go to the vending machine?

      I don’t see any good reason for this to exist. Either order online or pick up along w/ other stuff at the gun store. A vending machine is going to be out of whatever caliber I want anyway and they’ll probably get restocked rarely, so even a mild convenience would likely end up being an inconvenience. So even if it was safe, it’s not solving any problems.

      As someone w/ young kids, I definitely don’t want to make access to ammo easier for casual gun owners. Gun enthusiasts already know where to get ammo, this is just going to be a target for bored kids.

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      Who cares? You can buy ammo in plenty of places and most of us buy it online for the deep discount.

      The AI is for age verification or this idea would never fly.

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    Ok, how about no bullet vending machines because that’s obviously dystopian and if you desperately need bullets and can’t wait to get to a gun shop you have bigger issues

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    I mean, every vending machine can be hacked. Paywalled, so I can’t see if there’s something unique about this vending machine, but if it’s got any sort of onboard computer (which pretty much every vending machine does), then it can be accessed, and it can be bypassed.

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      These are supposed to have AI facial recognition for matching to government issued IDs, which just sounds like a huge attack surface (or even unintentional bugs).

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      You can also just vandalize the vending machine and steal the ammo, which would probably be a lot easier than hacking it, or even vandalizing a gun store.

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    Hey everyone, lockpickinglawer here. Today I’m going to show you how you can open one ammo vending machine with another ammo vending machine.

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    “It is easy for an underaged purchaser to go online and click they are of legal age, purchase ammunition, and have it shipped to their house,” added Magers

    WTF America, do amo marketplaces really have the same security standards as p**nhub ?

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      Don’t be silly. Porn sites could permanently scar kids for life when they see a nipple, obviously they need much better protection than something benign like shipping explosives to their house /s

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      WTF America, do amo marketplaces really have the same security standards as pornhub ?

      FTFY

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        Yup, in my state (Utah), there’s no required legal process to carry a firearm concealed, and you can buy a firearm w/o any required checks from a private seller (not ammo though), but you need to prove your age to access porn. That seems a little… odd.

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        Idk, but in EU I think this wouldn’t be a legitimate use of such sensitive data.

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    Actual ammo vending machines. That can be tampered with. Great.

    Could we not Torment Nexus the rest of Bioshock, please?

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        I find it far less disturbing.

        Yeah looking at the history it’s very problematic, but England has always retained a some sense of… morality. Fuck monarchy and all, but I find it very challenging to imagine the UK going as insane as the US is currently.

        Like when you read shit like this, I know who I favour historically:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bamber_Bridge

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          Eh… agree to disagree. Racism is far more mask off, and transpeople are attacked far more…

          I will give credit that Boris Johnson’s cult fizzled out when it became obvious he fucked up, Trump’s is still going strong even after the MILLIONS his botching of Covid snuffed out

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        At least we didn’t even consider bullet vending machines or drive through liquor stores.

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    Humanity is fucked when you can buy death from a vending machine. Where are the vodka vending machines? No? Just things to kill people.

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    Won’t anyone think of the gun owners that have social anxiety that can’t bear to look the guy at the gun shop in the eye and don’t have the time to wait for an online order because IVE GOT TO DO IT TONIGHT IF I DON’T DO IT TONIGHT ITS NEVER GONNA HAPPEN

    /s

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      Thats genuinely amazing. The OSM community doesn’t care if what you built is dumb, they just care if it’s on the map

      Props to them